Imperial Hero International

General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: baci1 on January 08, 2010, 10:35:41 PM

Title: Not FER
Post by: baci1 on January 08, 2010, 10:35:41 PM
From today new rules are imported to the non-premium members.
"You can use this feature if you activate Premium Membership and you have 200 or less crafting points in the current crafting Tier."
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: TaniaR on January 08, 2010, 10:51:37 PM
From today new rules are imported to the non-premium members.
"You can use this feature if you activate Premium Membership and you have 200 or less crafting points in the current crafting Tier."

I am agree they trying to do something new but it gets stupid. Is not respect i better quit the game than to invest permanently money. I think will looking for another game in the Internet is a lot, because I will not stay all day in Imperial Hero  ::) ::) ::)

Yes and once to craft 5 ingot was need 1 AP now 2 for non-premium members is not gratefully not at all :rant:
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: isolde on January 08, 2010, 11:38:42 PM
I think that you might want to wait until Monday when we can ask the IO team about this, I think there may be some changes but we dont know still.
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: ariu on January 09, 2010, 07:19:19 PM
battles should cost 1 ap,not 2...even resources digging should cost 1 ap
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: TaniaR on January 09, 2010, 08:04:59 PM
battles should cost 1 ap,not 2...even resources digging should cost 1 ap
What are you speak about, you want to stay all day in game, take premium memberships and will be all action with 1 AP and half time  8)
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: Judith on January 11, 2010, 10:42:05 AM
I wonder why you're mocking NOW, and not before. Since... always? the non premium members have spent 2 aps for digging/fighting.
But just now you consider it as not fer.
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: deyana on January 11, 2010, 02:16:29 PM
and now price of diamonds is more 13000 gold on market, and it grow, because of all who have gold - they try buy diamonds and get premium, isn't ?
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: TaniaR on January 11, 2010, 03:55:45 PM
Soon, very soon will be huge inflation. Currency (diamods) go up in price, crafted resources too, will be splendid  *suicide*  :D :D
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: baci1 on January 11, 2010, 04:11:24 PM
I wonder why you're mocking NOW, and not before. Since... always? the non premium members have spent 2 aps for digging/fighting.
But just now you consider it as not fer.

Before I craft 5 Light Leather with 2 aps, but with new rules I can craft only 1 at a time.


Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: baci1 on January 11, 2010, 04:28:07 PM
and now price of diamonds is more 13000 gold on market, and it grow, because of all who have gold - they try buy diamonds and get premium, isn't ?


I think this game start to lose its sense, because huge price of diamonds.
Now anybody can by diamonds for real money and to spend them on best weapons and equipment for his Tier.  You can find level 21 hero with legendary equipment. There is no more "challenge" in the game .

Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: Judith on January 12, 2010, 11:31:03 AM
and now price of diamonds is more 13000 gold on market, and it grow, because of all who have gold - they try buy diamonds and get premium, isn't ?
Soon, very soon will be huge inflation. Currency (diamods) go up in price, crafted resources too, will be splendid  *suicide*  :D :D


Well, dear fellows, have you thought about the FACT that YOU (players) are responsible for the prices (diamonds/mats,doesn't matter)?!?
Yesterday I saw someone selling diamonds for 23k.. :o
I mean.. wtf lol.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: andy_eu on January 12, 2010, 01:41:56 PM

Well, dear fellows, have you thought about the FACT that YOU (players) are responsible for the prices (diamonds/mats,doesn't matter)?!?
Yesterday I saw someone selling diamonds for 23k.. :o
I mean.. wtf lol.  :o :o :o


The thing is that there are only few players which sell diamonds and they increase the price. Maybe you(game staff) could involve by selling some diamonds at a lower price, in same way like a national bank tries to limit the exchange rate of local currencies.
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: cristit on January 12, 2010, 02:32:03 PM
High pointed players (as in Tier 4 & 5), of course have more gold. They can easy set the prices of diamonds. Low pointed players can not afford to buy 25 diamonds (> 500k gold). Maybe it would be better that diamond prices be influenced somehow by your Tier and level.
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: Crassus on January 12, 2010, 04:37:20 PM
High pointed players (as in Tier 4 & 5), of course have more gold. They can easy set the prices of diamonds. Low pointed players can not afford to buy 25 diamonds (> 500k gold). Maybe it would be better that diamond prices be influenced somehow by your Tier and level.

You have some point here... It is true that the more players that are high tier and gaining more gold they will be the ones who sets the prizes... And that is why they "destroy" (according to some players) the game. But how will be he prize of diamonds will be relevant to tier, if for example they do something like potions and objects what will stop a player with diamonds to sell them at high tier (and gain more money) from selling them at low-prise tiers? This will create a huge supply of diamonds, at hight tier, and this will drop the prise, but at low tiers there will be lack of diamonds and it will sett the prises to the sky...



About the other issues of the topic, non-premium members are more difficult to develop. There is no secret about it, but it is not impossible to do it. A premium player have 24 moves per 24 hours and a simple one have 12, so is about the half... I do not seeing anything unfair here... And coz i am a moderator yes i have a premium account but i am playing the game and with simple accounts... We know some issues but believe me is too difficult to suggest solutions that keep the balances...
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: TaniaR on January 12, 2010, 06:03:02 PM
High pointed players (as in Tier 4 & 5), of course have more gold. They can easy set the prices of diamonds. Low pointed players can not afford to buy 25 diamonds (> 500k gold). Maybe it would be better that diamond prices be influenced somehow by your Tier and level.

I think some players buy diamonds and after 1 day sell them with much more. If diamonds only increase in price and is not taxed, why do not use that, in 48 hours if is not sold seller do not lose anything, just for posting he not paid nothing.  :hmmm: good ideie to make gold. Interesting what if diamond market will be like objects market  :hmmm: *db*
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: cristit on January 12, 2010, 06:10:00 PM
there is a tax, but for Buy Order, not for sell.
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: Cuorion on January 12, 2010, 08:22:16 PM
I was thinking of opening a new topic in Suggestions about this post but since there is a conversation here with a similar purpose, I guess it is fine. I think there is something "missing" from the game. What we call money-sink. Let me explain.

Normally, when there is a steady turnout of new players in a game, it can become tricky when they have to compete over the same items with old players that have greater income, in more than one ways. To counter this, most games invend of a way to make older players spend their money in other things and ease the new players a bit. There are some money-sink mechanisms in game, but seemingly they are not enough. The problem with the existing such mechanisms is that they apply in both old and new players. Both repair their equipment, both pay their mercenaries, both buy their potions. What this game needs is something that new players can't have and old players want to have.

One idea is to implement achievements. Finish x dungeon without using mercenaries, kill y bears, etc. Some of the achievements though can be something like use z items at once, or even buy t random worthless items with hopes that they'll unlock an achievement in the future.

Of course, this is just a suggestion but I think it would lead high-tier players spend a part of their money so they then have less money to invest in diamonds, leading in a price drop.
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: Sheremetev on January 12, 2010, 09:51:25 PM
Go to Auction and see the price of coal, light hides or gemstones. High tier players buy these things with their own gold, because they don't have the chance or motivation to search for lower tier resources themselves. And so some of the gold goes not only for diamonds, but in the pockets of the people, who supply the market with certain resources.
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: Cuorion on January 12, 2010, 11:40:11 PM
Yeah and that's a good thing, however since people are allowed to keep multiple accounts, higher tier players can just make 2-3 multis and farm their own resources.

In any case, I don't think you believe it is lower tier players who brought the diamond prices all the way up to 23k each.
Title: Re: Not FER
Post by: Dino740 on January 16, 2010, 05:43:49 AM
......however since people are allowed to keep multiple accounts, higher tier players can just make 2-3 multis and farm their own resources.

The biggest problem in the game in my opinion............