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Bugs / Recipe bug
« on: February 14, 2011, 02:16:36 PM »
I was carefully monitoring last debates about problem with "exploiting bug". Fortunately I was not affected by this problem although I am heavy crafter. At first I was thinking I will not comment this problem, anyway after some comments from "IH people" I need to say something.
1. Many thanks finally arrived information what exactly happened, I think it is information which is needed for ALL players not only punished ones, because ALL players need to know for what and how much they can be punished.
2. I personally feel very problematic to punish players for YOUR MISTAKE
Players was not using any scripts or any external software to change your program, they was only playing YOUR game WITHOUT any active change of game. I believe between punished players was also some which do not know that multi-crafting from legendary recipe is something wrong. Rules of game are changing very rapidly and we all know also in official guide to game is not everything correct, especially foreign language versions are not always 100% correct.
3. OK, you take decision to punish player. Then I have another problem. I use to example of player zajacmarcowy2. You told he craft 22items from one-time recipe. So if I accept he is guilty ( at least partially ), his advantage is 21 recipes which has value of ..... 21mil gold ?
Your punishment was stripped hero + mercenaries. They armors, weapons and jewels has uncomparable higher value. So I think punishment was inadequate.
4. Oton remarks about " Be thankful the IH Team did not ban your entire account, along with any other accounts you possess " is big joke I hope. I do not know how somebody can be serious about mistake or anything happened on one account can be forwarded to next account of same owner which DO NOT MAKE ANYTHING WRONG ( even on another server ) !!!! All accounts are unique, so I really do not understand this remark. In fact this remark forced me write all this words. This is biggest ignorance of player rights I ever saw on this forum and also biggest verbal assault to players about what can happened in future
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5. About reporting bugs, I personally reported several bugs, some of them are still - after many weeks - " in procces "
6. Between my reported bugs was also bug with broken recipe ( what a coincidence ). Bug is still present and many players can be negative affected by this bug. Now little maths : I crafted 19 bugged weapons with damage 0-0 . I lost 38 adamantine ingots + 57 black leather + 19 sharpening stone + 171 ferrovanadium ingots + 19 zircon gems, so my total lost in value of resources was about 24mil gold ( in prices from 19/12/2010 ) + 19 diamonds for using legendary crafting tool + 19 diamonds for immediate crafting ( because I wanted raising my chance to craft epic ). Absolutly NOBODY care about my lost. So if player take advantage from bug, he is extremely hard punished . If player LOST by bug - everything is correct, right ?
I understand this game is still in development and I did not expect my lost be refunded. I understand nobody is perfect and you are also only humas which are making mistakes. But you evidently do not have such understanding for players. In view of new situation - I AM EXPECTING MY LOST WILL BE REFUNDED !!!!
Bug was reported here : http://forum.imperialhero.org/int/index.php?topic=13148.0
Again here : http://forum.imperialhero.org/int/index.php?topic=14108.0
7. Back to zajacmarcowy2. He does not need to cheat, I personaly craft for his second account zajacmarcowy many legendary recipes lvl59, which can be only acquired by purchase for diamonds, because are not dropping. He bought many for real diamonds. Why such account owner needs to DELIBERATELY take "advantage" from using one legendary recipe more times remain mystery for me forever.
I am not telling it not happened, I am telling it was not purpose. Just now it is not important, he end game on all his accounts and I think I understand his decision although I am very sad about that
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8. I love this game, this is perfect game. I played many games and also in present time I am playing more games, but this one is my favourite. Anyway I have feeling although technical aspect of game are perfect, lack of support and communication, together with small promotion making number of players very small in comparision with similar games which are far worse in graphic, in ideas, but promotion and support brings numbers of players to much higher numbers. I hope after you brings T7 you will have more time to think also about non-technical aspect of game.
I do not write these word because I want to criticise somebody, I love this game and I am sad when I can see how many players finished this game due to problems which can be ..... and should be avoided.
Janyemm, server3
1. Many thanks finally arrived information what exactly happened, I think it is information which is needed for ALL players not only punished ones, because ALL players need to know for what and how much they can be punished.
2. I personally feel very problematic to punish players for YOUR MISTAKE
Players was not using any scripts or any external software to change your program, they was only playing YOUR game WITHOUT any active change of game. I believe between punished players was also some which do not know that multi-crafting from legendary recipe is something wrong. Rules of game are changing very rapidly and we all know also in official guide to game is not everything correct, especially foreign language versions are not always 100% correct.3. OK, you take decision to punish player. Then I have another problem. I use to example of player zajacmarcowy2. You told he craft 22items from one-time recipe. So if I accept he is guilty ( at least partially ), his advantage is 21 recipes which has value of ..... 21mil gold ?
Your punishment was stripped hero + mercenaries. They armors, weapons and jewels has uncomparable higher value. So I think punishment was inadequate.
4. Oton remarks about " Be thankful the IH Team did not ban your entire account, along with any other accounts you possess " is big joke I hope. I do not know how somebody can be serious about mistake or anything happened on one account can be forwarded to next account of same owner which DO NOT MAKE ANYTHING WRONG ( even on another server ) !!!! All accounts are unique, so I really do not understand this remark. In fact this remark forced me write all this words. This is biggest ignorance of player rights I ever saw on this forum and also biggest verbal assault to players about what can happened in future
.5. About reporting bugs, I personally reported several bugs, some of them are still - after many weeks - " in procces "
6. Between my reported bugs was also bug with broken recipe ( what a coincidence ). Bug is still present and many players can be negative affected by this bug. Now little maths : I crafted 19 bugged weapons with damage 0-0 . I lost 38 adamantine ingots + 57 black leather + 19 sharpening stone + 171 ferrovanadium ingots + 19 zircon gems, so my total lost in value of resources was about 24mil gold ( in prices from 19/12/2010 ) + 19 diamonds for using legendary crafting tool + 19 diamonds for immediate crafting ( because I wanted raising my chance to craft epic ). Absolutly NOBODY care about my lost. So if player take advantage from bug, he is extremely hard punished . If player LOST by bug - everything is correct, right ?
I understand this game is still in development and I did not expect my lost be refunded. I understand nobody is perfect and you are also only humas which are making mistakes. But you evidently do not have such understanding for players. In view of new situation - I AM EXPECTING MY LOST WILL BE REFUNDED !!!!
Bug was reported here : http://forum.imperialhero.org/int/index.php?topic=13148.0
Again here : http://forum.imperialhero.org/int/index.php?topic=14108.0
7. Back to zajacmarcowy2. He does not need to cheat, I personaly craft for his second account zajacmarcowy many legendary recipes lvl59, which can be only acquired by purchase for diamonds, because are not dropping. He bought many for real diamonds. Why such account owner needs to DELIBERATELY take "advantage" from using one legendary recipe more times remain mystery for me forever.
I am not telling it not happened, I am telling it was not purpose. Just now it is not important, he end game on all his accounts and I think I understand his decision although I am very sad about that
. 8. I love this game, this is perfect game. I played many games and also in present time I am playing more games, but this one is my favourite. Anyway I have feeling although technical aspect of game are perfect, lack of support and communication, together with small promotion making number of players very small in comparision with similar games which are far worse in graphic, in ideas, but promotion and support brings numbers of players to much higher numbers. I hope after you brings T7 you will have more time to think also about non-technical aspect of game.
I do not write these word because I want to criticise somebody, I love this game and I am sad when I can see how many players finished this game due to problems which can be ..... and should be avoided.
Janyemm, server3
. But I do not know bonuses when 4 and 5 parts are completed.
