Imperial Hero International
General Category => General Talk => Topic started by: isolde on April 18, 2009, 02:26:52 PM
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Ok, I have this crazy idea that maybe we could exchange experience about what you consider the best places to go and fight. Since I am a noob, I always thought it is best idea to go Charlie's gang, since I get about 28-32 experience, dont lose too many healthpoints (about 30-40) and have a good chance to get an item.
As I have reached level 7, I see new places appearing but the first time I tried one, it took 2/3 of my healthpoints and gave me no items and only 5 experience more...Not sure if its worth it, anyone else have impressions ?
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Ok, I have this crazy idea that maybe we could exchange experience about what you consider the best places to go and fight. Since I am a noob, I always thought it is best idea to go Charlie's gang, since I get about 28-32 experience, dont lose too many healthpoints (about 30-40) and have a good chance to get an item.
As I have reached level 7, I see new places appearing but the first time I tried one, it took 2/3 of my healthpoints and gave me no items and only 5 experience more...Not sure if its worth it, anyone else have impressions ?
i tried one and lost xD
i reccomend mountains ;) especially when you get high agility those boars and stuff barely hit me and i get a lot of exp :D
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i tried one and lost xD
i reccomend mountains ;) especially when you get high agility those boars and stuff barely hit me and i get a lot of exp :D
I think also the mountains for now are the best place to fight. I tried several times to go to fight with the boss, but there are to have losses in vitality and with lvl 5 the risk of losing, especially, when you must fight with one 6 lvl boss, and one 5 lvl.
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i have one location: Dead Man's Crack
1st stage group (2 enemies) lvl 7-7, about 30 EXP
2nd stage group (2 enemies) lvl 8-8, about 40 EXP
3rd stage group (2 enemies) lvl 9-9, about 50 EXP
4th stage group (2 enemies) lvl 9-9, about 50 EXP
5th stage different enemies from 7 to 9 level, groups and 1 single, and Boss (100%) 9 lvl - not beaten.
Every stage need 1 AP, after stage U can heal if U have heal potions or something, at any time U can cancel battle 8)
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i have one location: Dead Man's Crack
1st stage group (2 enemies) lvl 7-7, about 30 EXP
2nd stage group (2 enemies) lvl 8-8, about 40 EXP
3rd stage group (2 enemies) lvl 9-9, about 50 EXP
4th stage group (2 enemies) lvl 9-9, about 50 EXP
5th stage different enemies from 7 to 9 level, groups and 1 single, and Boss (100%) 9 lvl - not beaten.
Every stage need 1 AP, after stage U can heal if U have heal potions or something, at any time U can cancel battle 8)
Well, that is exactly what I tried, chegewara but after 1st stage I lost about 200 hitpoints and I got 30 experience, that is same amount that I get from fighting the boss and one more robber in Charlie's gang... and there I lose 40 hitpoints.
Somehow this does not add to me, what is advantage to fight in Dead Man's Crack, do you get better/high level items ?
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nope. every item in this prowince are tier 1. but my bro will try later to beat boss on stage 2 and i give info 8)
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place: The Den
group of wolfs (3) in one battle, 59 EXP, lost 94 health 8)
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Has anyone tried yet Rolan's Camp ?
1 Common Robber - Level 7-9
1 Boss - Level 9
Sounds good but I am scared to die :'(
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Has anyone tried yet Rolan's Camp ?
1 Common Robber - Level 7-9
1 Boss - Level 9
Sounds good but I am scared to die :'(
dont scare, death is beauty 8)
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Well, didnt die but it absolutely not worth it !!!
Lost 350 health points for 43 experience and no items. I am requalifying myself to hunt wolves :D
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Well, didnt die but it absolutely not worth it !!!
Lost 350 health points for 43 experience and no items. I am requalifying myself to hunt wolves :D
hah thats bad for me..i got 110 hp XD :D
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hah thats bad for me..i got 110 hp XD :D
Thats no matter, when i fight in Boar's Head i lose only 10-15 health and fight with 2 enemies. i am poor mystic 8)
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place: The Den
enemies 3,
lvl 8, 8, 9.
lost hp 11
mercenary lost hp 49
34 exp for me
34 exp for merc
gained 13 gold
gained wooden staff mystic weapon 4-9 damage +20% agility , block 4
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Well, the main question is how much you value your AP.
If the answer is "a lot", then you should hit the most rewarding dungeons regardless of health loss, just for that extra experience and the chance for good items. Isolde, you got unlucky for a bit, but note that when they drop items, enemies always drop items of their level. That means that in the earlier dungeons you'll get maximum level 6 items, but in the new ones, if you're lucky to get some items, they can be up to level 9 items.
EDIT: It's also worth noting that you lose 1 durability per raid regardless of its difficulty. This, too, makes less rewarding dungeons less profitable in comparison to high-yield ones.
I'm only level 6 now, but I definitely want to try out the newer dungeons 8)
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Well, didnt die but it absolutely not worth it !!!
Lost 350 health points for 43 experience and no items. I am requalifying myself to hunt wolves :D
come to me and i will heal ya 8)
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Dead Man's Crack is the only multistage dungeon in the first province (instance so to speak). These dungeons are special, because they have bosses/minion with higher rating. This particular dungeon is with a Rare class boss, which is twice as strong as regular 9th level robber and has chances for dropping rare items... However to get to him you have to successfully clear all of his guards, if you go back to the city, you have to start from scratch. Pack food and potions :)
These are the dungeons that Mercs and parties would be most necessary for. (there will be dungeons with many, many levels and very strong opponents on each stage, hence you need quite a party to clear them all on one go)
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is there a way to start a party with multiple players? havent found it
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Well, the main question is how much you value your AP.
If the answer is "a lot", then you should hit the most rewarding dungeons regardless of health loss, just for that extra experience and the chance for good items. Isolde, you got unlucky for a bit, but note that when they drop items, enemies always drop items of their level. That means that in the earlier dungeons you'll get maximum level 6 items, but in the new ones, if you're lucky to get some items, they can be up to level 9 items.
EDIT: It's also worth noting that you lose 1 durability per raid regardless of its difficulty. This, too, makes less rewarding dungeons less profitable in comparison to high-yield ones.
I'm only level 6 now, but I definitely want to try out the newer dungeons 8)
That's exactly what was my line of reasoning, Poly, I was counting for better items and I am aware that higher level enemies provide high level items and take more hitpoints. That is why I was a bit disappointed, I tried 3 times in a row, also once with a 9th level boss and I got NOTHING !!! Maybe its just my damn luck, I"ll try again tomorrow :)
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That's exactly what was my line of reasoning, Poly, I was counting for better items and I am aware that higher level enemies provide high level items and take more hitpoints. That is why I was a bit disappointed, I tried 3 times in a row, also once with a 9th level boss and I got NOTHING !!! Maybe its just my damn luck, I"ll try again tomorrow :)
brave girl *bravo* U got +k 8)
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Basically i think you should mainly check the time it is. this is how i do it
when i come online i have full health and about 12-14AP. this means that if i die i have to wait for hours to get my health back to a lvl where i can fight. so instead i choose to fight weaker opponents so that i can do 8-9 raids before i have to heal. also i ALWAYS attack robbers and thieves. bears dont have weapons or armor and i havent seen them drop any.
The main reason for items is, apart from getting better gear, gold. the more gold you have, the better stuff you can buy at the auction house or health potions/food. therefor again i choose to attack thieves and robbers.
so i choose to attack whatever i can beat and loose around 20 HP each round. this changes on my last AP. since i can only do 1 more raid i then choose the strongest place i can beat with the highest lvl enemies. i get the best drops if im lucky but also loose lots of HP. but since i ran out of AP anyway it doesnt matter. i go work for 4 hours (or 6) and after that time my HP is back at max and got 6 AP again to start new raids
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funny ... i do the other way around
1) the strongest places where I can gather as much XP as possible
2) the places where I can most likely win with my low HP
but I got secondary goals too :
a) doing as much fights as possible to see the impact bonus of mastering a weapon (bow, dagger) and preferential foes (boars, wolves)
b) getting beast hides
... and when I don't have enough HP or AP, then I go "working-for-rest"
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The Den
Team 1
Name : Styks
Level : 7
Team 2
Name : Small grey wolf
Level : 9
Name : Small grey wolf
Level : 9
Name : Small grey wolf
Level : 9
36 Round ;D
Team 1 is victorious!
Styks battle statistics:
Attacks/Successful : 36/29
Damage Done : 297.9975
Critical hits done : 5
Small grey wolf battle statistics:
Attacks/Successful : 25/15
Damage Done : 26.3019
Critical hits done : 0
Small grey wolf battle statistics:
Attacks/Successful : 11/5
Damage Done : 8.7673
Critical hits done : 0
Small grey wolf battle statistics:
Attacks/Successful : 35/21
Damage Done : 36.82266
Critical hits done : 0
EXP added : 63(+0) to Styks
GOLD added : 12 to Styks
Light Hides added to your bag!
Light Hides added to your bag!
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That's exactly what was my line of reasoning, Poly, I was counting for better items and I am aware that higher level enemies provide high level items and take more hitpoints. That is why I was a bit disappointed, I tried 3 times in a row, also once with a 9th level boss and I got NOTHING !!! Maybe its just my damn luck, I"ll try again tomorrow :)
i killed them 2 times and i got 4 2 items each time. opal and nice 4-9 sword + expensive recipe and 1 meat. So its luck.
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rings and amulets help much to find items 8)
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I have no idea what I am doing wrong, I can still not find a good balance between spending action points and getting experience/items. This game is not for me, there is too much based on luck ! Once I go to a location and lose 50 HP, once I go and lose 150 and get killed >:( I am seriously thinking someone has put a curse on me !!!
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this is strange for me, cause i play on 2 account.
1st is mystic and he have 90 HP, armor 58, attack 6,2-11,3, i attack rather Boar's Head dungeon and lose very few HP and gain about 30 EXP, i use not so good armor
2nd is warrior with 380 HP now, armor 135, attack 16,8-18,9, when i attack i lose lot of HP and cant use all AP to fight, not like mystic
8)
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this is strange for me, cause i play on 2 account.
1st is mystic and he have 90 HP, armor 58, attack 6,2-11,3, i attack rather Boar's Head dungeon and lose very few HP and gain about 30 EXP, i use not so good armor
2nd is warrior with 380 HP now, armor 135, attack 16,8-18,9, when i attack i lose lot of HP and cant use all AP to fight, not like mystic
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I think its because of the mage's ability to heal himself, I play something similar to your 2nd account and I have already tried BOTH Repr and Starbuck strategy (I prefer Starbuck's more unless I have something to craft) but I find myself out of healthpoints after 3 turns... Quite frustrating :(
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this is strange for me, cause i play on 2 account.
1st is mystic and he have 90 HP, armor 58, attack 6,2-11,3, i attack rather Boar's Head dungeon and lose very few HP and gain about 30 EXP, i use not so good armor
2nd is warrior with 380 HP now, armor 135, attack 16,8-18,9, when i attack i lose lot of HP and cant use all AP to fight, not like mystic
8)
Nice second warrior :D
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I think its because of the mage's ability to heal himself, I play something similar to your 2nd account and I have already tried BOTH Repr and Starbuck strategy (I prefer Starbuck's more unless I have something to craft) but I find myself out of healthpoints after 3 turns... Quite frustrating :(
mystic can heal 1 points per round and i gain about 4 HP before battle from skill, its still very few HP 8)
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mystic heals 2 points every round if you invested additional point in heal. so in longer battle 2 extra hp per round is nice advantage. but when i run out of spirit i dont fight anymore, because ussually it ends up very bad against stronger oponents.
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very good skill for mystic is inner concentration, i have normal max attack 11,3 but when made critical hit he attack 32 points 8)
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I have no idea what I am doing wrong, I can still not find a good balance between spending action points and getting experience/items. This game is not for me, there is too much based on luck ! Once I go to a location and lose 50 HP, once I go and lose 150 and get killed >:( I am seriously thinking someone has put a curse on me !!!
;D
wait till i reach level 15 8)
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Team 1 is victorious!
Jackp0T battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks : 12/14
Damage Done : 398.8928
Critical hits done : 2
Thief battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks : 3/13
Damage Done : 27.63636
Critical hits done : 0
Thief battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks : 1/6
Damage Done : 9.21212
Critical hits done : 0
Battle generation time: 0.051925 seconds.
EXP added : 86(+0) to Jackp0T
GOLD added : 118 to Jackp0T
Team 1 is victorious!
Jackp0T battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks : 16/26
Damage Done : 531.04426666667
Critical hits done : 3
Thief - Archer battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks : 3/10
Damage Done : 7.40985
Critical hits done : 0
Thief battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks : 8/25
Damage Done : 112.85103333333
Critical hits done : 1
Battle generation time: 0.070489 seconds.
EXP added : 114(+0) to Jackp0T
GOLD added : 191 to Jackp0T
i lose 37 - 100 hp per battle , and gain 100- 190 gold and 90 exp per battle :P ...
Sonoria Domain , guess where ;)