mining tool

[jaros]

I cant dig "over 100%" of ore/coal? for example, Im digging coal, chance is 100% (certain). I have mining tool 10%. I have dig 50 (5*10AP). it should not be 5*tool bonus*AP?

[Crassus]

When you dig with 100% chance means that you will get at least the minimum amount of ore per AP. If you are digging for coal with 2-6 ores per successful dig and 100% chance to success, you may receive sometimes just 2 ores and other 6 or 3  (per AP) etc.
I believe you can't have chance for successful dig more than 100%... There is no point for it, since you are not getting more resources, and there is no critical ore digging... Mining tools, other guild bonus etc. applied to lower chances for more successful digs.

[Tiger]

You dig 50 times, thats it. Those bonuses just add chances to be sucesfull. So if coal is say 80% chances, from 50 times, you should in average 40 times have sucesfull dig. But with bonuses, you increase your chances to have sucesfull dig. And in each dig you get random number of resources between minimum and maximum quantity.

[strategy]

Can anyone PLEASE ask developers to change those "Less likely","more likely" to certain percentage (10%, 50%) we could all understand??

I just got mining with 6% tool and "more likely" ore dig chance, and it looks like its more "unlikely", since I got ore from 2 out of 10 tries!! 

I really can't express (politely) how it affects on people who play for fun.

Please...

[Tiger]

in alfa testing, there were exact numbers. they are changed to less likely, more likely... so the people need to find out best loctions on their own.
And digging is matter of luck. even if it would say 80 % instead of some word, that doesnt mean you will get 8/10. You could get 0,1,2...9,10. in average on big numbers, it will be 8/10, but you can get only 3 once, others can get 10 once. Like fliping the coin, its 50% chance to flip head, but that doesnt mean from 2 flips you will always flip 1 head.

[Crassus]

Exactly and if you want numbers... There are 5 parts at that bar each part represent a 20%...
For example rare is from 1-20% chance... This means that at a dungeon maybe there is 18% chance to get ore or 5% or even 20%...

[strategy]

So, if I understand right, it could also mean that some site where stands "more likely" (half bar) could mean chance for succesuful dig may vary from 1-50%, or maybe from 25-50%?

And bringing mining tool is adding +6% on that chance.

Just one more question: IF I visit some dig site and se it has some specific dig chance (say, 25%), and after I leave and come again, will that number stay the same or will it change on each visit?

[Tiger]

Nope, it isnt 1-50, but its 40-60. You have 5 ranks for 20% each. -20%, 20-40%, 40-60%...
Chances at certain minning site are same , no matter if you leave and return.

[Crassus]

- The equipped crafting tool increases the chance for raw Ores gathering (Example: If the gathering chance of the Tin Ore is 50% and you have a tool which gives you +50% bonus, the gathering chance becomes 75%).

The quote is from "How to play".
This means that if the chance at a dungeon is 80% and you use a simple tool adding 6% the total chance isn't 86% but
80+(80*6)/100=85.16%. If the chance is 50% you will dig with 53% chance etc.

[strategy]

OK, got it. Thank you guys