deflect arrow stance

[chegewara]

Team   Team
Name : przemek251
Level 21
Class: Warrior
Damage 106.5 - 152.24
Range: 0
Critical Hit Chance: 4%
Block Chance: 0%
Total Armor: 651.24
Items' Agility Modifier: -20%
Items' Dextirity Modifier: -20%


   Name : Marauder
Level 17
Class: None
Damage 19.9061 - 36.4946
Range: 0
Critical Hit Chance: 2%
Block Chance: 23%
Total Armor: 140
Items' Agility Modifier: 0%
Items' Dextirity Modifier: 0%


Round 1
przemek251 uses the skill Leadership on his party and raise their attributes with 4%.

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 doesn't have an opponent, therefore he chooses Marauder. Level difference modifier is 1.3 .
Marauder's block percentage is 20.
przemek251 hits Marauder for 152.63466666667 and the latter is left with 417.37 health.
Monster kills bonus adds 6% to damage.


Team 2 takes turn
Marauder doesn't have an opponent, therefore he chooses przemek251. Level difference modifier is 0.7 .
przemek251's block percentage is 0.
stance adds 6.967135 to 19.9061 damage.
Marauder hits przemek251 for 26.873235 and the latter is left with 846.73 health.Charge attack performed!
Round 2

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 hits Marauder for 152.63466666667 and the latter is left with 264.73 health.
Monster kills bonus adds 6% to damage.


Team 2 takes turn
stance adds 6.967135 to 19.9061 damage.
Marauder hits przemek251 for 26.873235 and the latter is left with 819.85 health.
Round 3

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 hits Marauder for 152.63466666667 and the latter is left with 112.1 health.
Monster kills bonus adds 6% to damage.


Team 2 takes turn
Marauder 65/52.949568 hit evaded.
Round 4

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 hits Marauder for 152.63466666667 and the latter is left with -40.54 health.
Monster kills bonus adds 6% to damage.


Team 2 takes turn
stance adds 6.967135 to 19.9061 damage.
Marauder hits przemek251 for 26.873235 and the latter is left with 792.98 health.
Marauder has been defeated!

Team 1 is victorious!
przemek251 battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks 4/4
Damage Done: 610.53866666667
Critical Hits Done: 0
Marauder battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks 3/4
Damage Done: 80.619705
Critical Hits Done: 0

Battle generation time: 0.046719 seconds.

EXP added : 39(+1) to przemek251
GOLD added : 26 to przemek251

Team   Team
Name : przemek251
Level 21
Class: Warrior
Damage 106.5 - 152.24
Range: 0
Critical Hit Chance: 4%
Block Chance: 0%
Total Armor: 651.24
Items' Agility Modifier: -20%
Items' Dextirity Modifier: -20%


   Name : Marauder
Level 17
Class: None
Damage 19.9061 - 36.4946
Range: 0
Critical Hit Chance: 2%
Block Chance: 23%
Total Armor: 140
Items' Agility Modifier: 0%
Items' Dextirity Modifier: 0%


Round 1
przemek251 uses the skill Leadership on his party and raise their attributes with 4%.

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 doesn't have an opponent, therefore he chooses Marauder. Level difference modifier is 1.3 .
Marauder's block percentage is 20.
przemek251 hits Marauder for 152.63466666667 and the latter is left with 417.37 health.
Monster kills bonus adds 6% to damage.


Team 2 takes turn
Marauder doesn't have an opponent, therefore he chooses przemek251. Level difference modifier is 0.7 .
przemek251's block percentage is 0.
Marauder 78/52.949568 hit evaded.
Round 2

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 hits Marauder for 152.63466666667 and the latter is left with 264.73 health.
Monster kills bonus adds 6% to damage.


Team 2 takes turn
Marauder hits przemek251 for 19.9061 and the latter is left with 853.69 health.
Round 3

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 hits Marauder for 152.63466666667 and the latter is left with 112.1 health.
Monster kills bonus adds 6% to damage.


Team 2 takes turn
Marauder hits przemek251 for 19.9061 and the latter is left with 833.79 health.
Round 4

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 hits Marauder for 152.63466666667 and the latter is left with -40.54 health.
Monster kills bonus adds 6% to damage.


Team 2 takes turn
Marauder hits przemek251 for 19.9061 and the latter is left with 813.88 health.
Marauder has been defeated!

Team 1 is victorious!
przemek251 battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks 4/4
Damage Done: 610.53866666667
Critical Hits Done: 0
Marauder battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks 3/4
Damage Done: 59.7183
Critical Hits Done: 0

Battle generation time: 0.02606 seconds.

EXP added : 39(+1) to przemek251
GOLD added : 42 to przemek251


those are 2 different reports from 2 battles. in first one battle i used deflect arrow level 3 (35%) skill and you know what, marauder used it against me and hit me with 35% more hit points. i know programmers dont like me but why my hero's hit his skills? 

[chegewara]

Team   Team
Name : przemek251
Level 21
Class: Warrior
Damage 106.5 - 152.24
Range: 0
Critical Hit Chance: 4%
Block Chance: 0%
Total Armor: 651.24
Items' Agility Modifier: -20%
Items' Dextirity Modifier: -20%


   Name : Marauder - Archer
Level 18
Class: None
Damage 4.67302 - 38.5524
Range: 2
Critical Hit Chance: 3%
Block Chance: 0%
Total Armor: 86
Items' Agility Modifier: 0%
Items' Dextirity Modifier: 0%


Round 1
przemek251 uses the skill Leadership on his party and raise their attributes with 4%.

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 's weapon range is lower, current distance is 2.

Team 2 takes turn
Marauder - Archer doesn't have an opponent, therefore he chooses przemek251. Level difference modifier is 0.8 .
przemek251's block percentage is 0.
Marauder - Archer 88/67.713792 hit evaded.

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 's weapon range is lower, current distance is 1.

Team 2 takes turn
Marauder - Archer uses the skill Burning Arrow, which adds 20 to his weapon's maximum damage.
stance reduces damage taken, which is 15.1364 with 5.29774.
Marauder - Archer hits przemek251 for 9.83866 and the latter is left with 863.76 health.
Round 2

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 doesn't have an opponent, therefore he chooses Marauder - Archer. Level difference modifier is 1.2 .
Marauder - Archer's block percentage is 0.
przemek251 hits Marauder - Archer for 156.23466666667 and the latter is left with 53.77 health.
Monster kills bonus adds 6% to damage.


Team 2 takes turn
Marauder - Archer 81/67.713792 hit evaded.
Round 3

Team 1 takes turn
przemek251 hits Marauder - Archer for 156.23466666667 and the latter is left with -102.47 health.
Monster kills bonus adds 6% to damage.


Team 2 takes turn
Marauder - Archer 90/67.713792 hit evaded.
Marauder - Archer has been defeated!

Team 1 is victorious!
przemek251 battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks 2/2
Damage Done: 312.46933333333
Critical Hits Done: 0
Marauder - Archer battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks 1/4
Damage Done: 9.83866
Critical Hits Done: 0

Battle generation time: 0.03181 seconds.

EXP added : 49(+2) to przemek251
GOLD added : 22 to przemek251

against archer daflect arrows works fine

[Tiger]

Well you get better defense against ranged enemies, but worse against close range weapons.
Same as melee defense with which close range hits you for less, but range hits you for more.

[chegewara]

Team 2 takes turn
Marauder doesn't have an opponent, therefore he chooses przemek251. Level difference modifier is 0.7 .
przemek251's block percentage is 0.
stance adds 6.967135 to 19.9061 damage.
Marauder hits przemek251 for 26.873235 and the latter is left with 846.73 health.Charge attack performed!

but this stance make me extra damage. i dont want to protection against melee but why with protection against range weapon i get extra damage with power (35%) which should protect me against range? when i have protection against melee weapon then range weapon dont make me that extra damage

[Tiger]

Tim 2 je na potezu
stav daje 16.3243696 na 40.810924 štete.
Heretik - strijelac udara beast za 57.1352936 i njemu ostaje 2057.86 zdravlja.
Sory its in croatian, but in general i had activated melee defense and heretic archer hitted me for 16 more(40%). And marauders later hitted me for 40% less.

[isolde]

but this stance make me extra damage. i dont want to protection against melee but why with protection against range weapon i get extra damage with power (35%) which should protect me against range? when i have protection against melee weapon then range weapon dont make me that extra damage

Because I think the description of this skill is wrong ! It says that you get "increased defense against ranged weapons", it mentions nothing about bearing increased damage by melee weapons ! If I knew that little detail I would never take this stance because its completely useless because of several reasons:

1. Archers hit for way less damage so this "increased defense" is not so useful considering that I am going to be hit way harder by monsters like marauders who have huge melee damage.

2. There are no groups of archers currently in the game - always in groups there are 2 or 3 enemies with melee damage and 1 archers. So it's totally not worth it to take this stance - you lose more than what you gain ...

Round 1

Team 1 takes turn
Isolde 's weapon range is lower, current distance is 1.

Team 2 takes turn
Robber 's weapon range is lower, current distance is 1.
Robber 's weapon range is lower, current distance is 1.
Thief - Archer doesn't have an opponent, therefore he chooses Isolde. Level difference modifier is 0.7 .
Isolde's block percentage is 47.8.
stance reduces damage taken, which is 2.72343 with 0.9532005.
Thief - Archer hits Isolde for 1.7702295 and the latter is left with 1879.23 health.
Round 2


Team 2 takes turn
Robber tries to use the skill Ambush that adds 6% to his Critical Hit Chance.
Robber successfully uses the skill Ambush.
stance adds 16.250955 to 46.4313 damage.
Robber hits Isolde for 62.682255 and the latter is left with 1816.55 health.A critical hit is performed! 2/8!

stance reduces damage taken, which is 2.72343 with 0.9532005.


You can see clearly - I save 1 HP for using my great stance and I lose 16 HP. Now, let me do the math...should I use this stance ?

[chegewara]

thats why i put it in bugs, but if this is no bug then please move this topic to questions or general talk. i think this is useless and only fight with other heroes in arena this can be used

[isolde]

thats why i put it in bugs, but if this is no bug then please move this topic to questions or general talk. i think this is useless and only fight with other heroes in arena this can be used

Well, I dont think the way the stance works is a bug, but the description is surely wrong because it only says half of what the stance does ! So I would like an official position about what it REALLY does before we can figure out if its a bug or not ....

[Oton]

The official position is that the Deflect arrows skill increases the defense against ranged weapons, but decreases the defense against close-ranged weapons.

The skill description will be fixed.