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[govinda]

A funny quiz

Who do you think will be the winner?

Hero ONE
Health before battle:580
Spirit before battle:60
Class:Ranger
Level21
Range:2
Total Armor:1188
Critical Hit Chance:28%
Block Chance:15%
Damage36.3 - 134.5

Hero TWO
Health before battle:763
Spirit before battle:290
Class:Ranger
Level20
Range:2
Total Armor:1098
Critical Hit Chance:34%
Block Chance:15.6%
Damage40.3 - 147.3


Hero ONE won with a GREAT advantage in only 5 rounds, even if nearly ALL the numbers above were against him.

Team
Name : govinda
Level 21
Class: Ranger
Damage 36.3 - 134.52
Range: 2
Critical Hit Chance: 28%
Block Chance: 15%
Total Armor: 1188
Items' Agility Modifier: 0%
Items' Dextirity Modifier: 0%

Team
 Name : ramzesII
Level 20
Class: Ranger
Damage 40.3375 - 147.345
Range: 2
Critical Hit Chance: 34%
Block Chance: 15.6%
Total Armor: 1098
Items' Agility Modifier: 0%
Items' Dextirity Modifier: 0%


 

Round 1

Team 1 takes turn
govinda doesn't have an opponent, therefore he chooses ramzesII. Level difference modifier is 1 .
ramzesII's block percentage is 11.6.
govinda hits ramzesII for 330.36 and the latter is left with 432.64 health.A critical hit is performed! 4/28!


Team 2 takes turn
ramzesII doesn't have an opponent, therefore he chooses govinda. Level difference modifier is 1 .
govinda's block percentage is 9.
ramzesII 84/25 hit evaded.

Team 1 takes turn
govinda hits ramzesII for 61.32 and the latter is left with 371.32 health.

Team 2 takes turn
ramzesII 53/25 hit evaded.

Round 2

Team 1 takes turn
govinda hits ramzesII for 61.32 and the latter is left with 310 health.

Team 2 takes turn
ramzesII 65/25 hit evaded.

Round 3

Team 1 takes turn
govinda hits ramzesII for 61.32 and the latter is left with 248.68 health.

Team 2 takes turn
ramzesII 53/25 hit evaded.

Round 4

Team 1 takes turn
govinda hits ramzesII for 61.32 and the latter is left with 187.36 health.

Team 2 takes turn
ramzesII 6/9 Block successful.

Round 5

Team 1 takes turn
govinda hits ramzesII for 330.36 and the latter is left with -143 health.A critical hit is performed! 6/28!


Team 2 takes turn
ramzesII hits govinda for 68.145 and the latter is left with 511.86 health.
ramzesII has been defeated!

Team 1 is victorious!
govinda battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks 6/6
Damage Done: 906
Critical Hits Done: 2
ramzesII battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks 1/6
Damage Done: 68.145
Critical Hits Done: 0

Battle generation time: 0.09982 seconds.

the reason is very simple: AGILITY & DEXTERITY     


Hero ONE
STRENGTH 31
VITALITY 53
AGILITY 131.5
DEXTERITY 115
INTELLIGENCE 5

HERO TWO
STRENGTH 46
VITALITY 63
AGILITY 65.5
DEXTERITY 77.5
INTELLIGENCE 45

Strength and Intelligence?  they are not worth nothing, for rangers!  (and also for warriors IMHO) :-\

[Geomaticus]

You shouldn't assume that because you won a single battle that all battles between these two fighters would end the same way. This was the outcome this time, that doesn't mean it would be like that every time. Your opponent does have a higher percentage to make critical hits - even with a lower dexterity than you.

Also, while intelligence doesn't have much use for a ranger, strength has a benefit for all classes since it can increase your damage.

[govinda]

I respect your opinion Geomaticus, but mine is not based only on this battle, that I've shown just as an example.
Last 2 days I won 7 battles on 8. Five of them were against players 1 or 2 levels above mine. I analized all the battles, before to realize that the reason of successes resides on my DEX and AGI superiority.

[chegewara]

i think you both have right. just look at this

Team 1 takes turn
chegewara 61/47 hit evaded.

Team 2 takes turn
louise_ass 35/28.68 hit evaded.

chegewara battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks 16/68

louise_ass battle statistics:
Successful/Attacks 17/65

i had 47% chance to hit but i have success only 23,5% hits. of course if you have high dexterity you have higher chance to win. first you will hit more often and second you will hit more often critical hit, and critical hit give lot advantage in battle

but there is something in this battle. my hero used healing for every round from 3rd. this gave me extra 62 HP. without spirit (intelligence) ive lost this battle

Round 65
chegewara healed chegewara for 1 points and he has 48.375416666667 health now.

i know this is example for mystic not for ranger, but did you try using head shoot or burning arrow or volley? those are ranger skills and they need spirit, same with warrior, he have skills like whirlwind, raging charge, crashing blow, shield bash or leadership. maybe in challenge not all are usefull but in dungeons this skills are very helpfull and all need spirit

[Tiger]

Those numbers shows only strength of each hero. In general, stronger hero will win most often. But thats statistic which will show only in huge number of fights, not in 7 or 8 battles. Battles have luck factor.
Example. Player 1 have 50 % on criticals(ranger), player 2(warrior) have 16%. But warrior gets lucky and hit first crit and then normal hit so ranger is dead in 2 rounds. and ranger doesnt hit any crit in 2 rounds. Its from real battle. Will that hapend every time. No, i lost next 5 battles with warrior not even scratching ranger.
So numbers in attributtes, damage, crit... can favor you but luck is also part of game.

[govinda]

What Tiger says about the relevance of fortune is correct, IMO
and also the arguments given by chegewara supporting the importance of intelligence.
But, what about strength and damage?
I used to be addicted to other mmorpg ( WOW and 9Dragons, for example) so i was surprised by the minor, less minor, influence of STR in the calculation of total damage, compared to the influence of the weapon used. Actually I think that Imperial Hero's formulation is more "realistic" (since a weaker person with a double-hand hammer surely makes more damage than strong one, with a knife), but I wonder: it is worth the pain of increasing STR, sacrificing AGI and DEX, when it is so easy to double your damage only finding a "rare" (very common indeed  ) or "legendary" weapon of the same kind and tier?

[govinda]

For coincidence, meanwhile i was writing the above mex, my hero won another challenge launched by a warrior totally purple dressed! 
his statistics are:

STRENGTH 158.5    me 31
VITALITY 148             53
AGILITY 42                131.5
DEXTERITY 96            115
INTELLIGENCE 32         5
HEALTH 1581              580
SPIRIT  224                60
ARMOR 2090              1188
DAMAGE 110.1-322.3    36.3 - 134.5

still another "lucky strike" ?? 
I must play roulette instead! 

[Tiger]

Rangers have 2 best attributes as their primary attributes. Agi + dex. They evade most of hits because agility and hit all the time + a lot of criticals. So its not luck if you kill most of warriors and mystics.

[chegewara]

you have right, STR have really small influence on damage but you dont said everything about STR. and having 100 points strength you have "only" 25% more to damage, when you check account LCFDIVINE you will see that he is warrior and he have 97 STR, basic weapon damage 230 and only strength bonus give him almost 60 extra points to damage, now when you take another bonus from strength which is decreasing block chance, for every 10 STR -1% block chance then this is not so bad to invest on STR

[chegewara]

im warrior lvl 19, AGG - 11,9, DEX - 28,7 which is very poor but you can see i can won with ranger or mystic with same level. if you know what is your best attributes you really can beat other heroes no matter what class you have and what class have they

Class    -2   -1   0   +1   +2
Warrior    2/0    5/1    6/0    0/0    0/0
Ranger    1/1    2/1    2/0    0/0    0/0
Mystic    1/0    2/0    1/0    0/0    0/0

[govinda]

im warrior lvl 19, AGG - 11,9, DEX - 28,7 which is very poor but you can see i can won with ranger or mystic with same level.

Very interesting. So, 'cmon! Grow-up quickly to 3rd tier, so we can test our teories on the field   

[chegewara]

Very interesting. So, 'cmon! Grow-up quickly to 3rd tier, so we can test our teories on the field   

dont worry, we dont meet cause this is from alpha server

[govinda]

dont worry, we dont meet cause this is from alpha server

dont worry???
YOU dont worry!