oh my, please dont dig so deep into this 
Nationalistic jokes will persist no matter what, you have to get humor out of something and at someone's expense 
Beside it was supposed to be funny, the french capitulating from a light saber, dont read so much into it 
I think you are mistaking me with a well-known forum troll ... I know how to see a joke, no matter how crass/offensive that joke may appear to me
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no, what I said was ticking me off was not so much the joke per se, but the fact that it was used as a pop culture innuendo for cowardice and betrayal ...
do you see a difference between refering to the UK as "Perfidious Albion" and France as "cheese-eating surrendering monkey nation" ? notwithstanding the language, I do see several : one is used in reference to historical facts in the first case, yet is respectuous ... when the other case is based on nationalistic myth of quasi-racist supremacy (WASP forever !!
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and after that, you see it repeated as "factual" when someone wants to describe/justify a country/people's actions ... US/English news networks forums are filled with such comments. and some of the posters don't realize it started as a "joke"/"taunt" : they actually believe it to be facts.
like Polymeron was joking, I'm sure he can get mad sometimes at all the "factual", "humoristic" description assigned to Israelis for whatever nationalistic/ideologic reasons ...
so ...
let's go back to topic :
how much do you like South Park ?
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